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03-03-2007, 11:02 PM
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Question for fellow Christians
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I have for the longest time thought that if I ever own a business or become manager of a business that I will not hire those that are atheists or keep them staffed just for the sheer fact that they are godless and I believe lack any drive for moral commitment.
Of course this is only for those people that I do not know and not for those that I have come to know and have trust in.
I am wondering if there are any others that have similar thoughts or have any view on this.
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03-03-2007, 11:18 PM
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Well, I am not usually a person to judge too deeply into people's religious beliefs although I do have friends who are atheist and whatnot. It all depends on the business and the type of person, I wouldnt want to stereotype atheist or people of other religions as lacking in commitment, but it certainly can be the case sometimes. People can lack commitment even if they are Christians, it all depends on the person. I find it frustrating too when people just go on and dont believe in God or whatnot, (when I speak to them in person forums are a different matter) but what can you do. All I can say is that it is better to examine a person individually rather than base it on a religious belief.
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03-03-2007, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by El Pirata
Well, I am not usually a person to judge too deeply into people's religious beliefs although I do have friends who are atheist and whatnot. It all depends on the business and the type of person, I wouldnt want to stereotype atheist or people of other religions as lacking in commitment, but it certainly can be the case sometimes. People can lack commitment even if they are Christians, it all depends on the person. I find it frustrating too when people just go on and dont believe in God or whatnot, (when I speak to them in person forums are a different matter) but what can you do. All I can say is that it is better to examine a person individually rather than base it on a religious belief.
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Well of course I will hire them if I know there character and trust them. I am just saying if John and Smith walked in and wanted a job and had the same resume...I would go for the one that was (insert random religion here) unless I knew the one that was Atheist.
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“He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt.”
“Success and failure are both difficult to endure. Along with success come drugs, divorce, fornication, bullying, travel, meditation, medication, depression, neurosis and suicide. With failure comes failure.”
“The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on.”
“When I grow up I want to be a little boy.”
^ Joseph Heller
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03-03-2007, 11:24 PM
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well yea if they have the same resume, then of course it would probably be in your best interest if you picked the non atheist, I guess I didnt think about that
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03-03-2007, 11:26 PM
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Sounds like stereotyping to me. That's also not much of a living testimony to the love of Yeshua.
St. Francis of Assisi said "Preach the gospel wherever you go. Use words when necessary."
Any judgement cast in ignorance creates prejudice in the heart. Living by the golden rule, reverse the situation and look at it from another's perspective. If an atheist wouldn't hire you because he thought Christians were insane, that's prejudice and I'm sure you'd be upset about it (rightfully so).
A disagreement in belief structure is not relevant to someone doing a good job unless that individual's job would involve ministry of the Christian belief system.
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03-03-2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by El Pirata
well yea if they have the same resume, then of course it would probably be in your best interest if you picked the non atheist, I guess I didnt think about that
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Yea, It makes a lot of sense.
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Originally Posted by Brother of Yeshua
Sounds like stereotyping to me. That's also not much of a living testimony to the love of Yeshua.
St. Francis of Assisi said "Preach the gospel wherever you go. Use words when necessary."
Any judgement cast in ignorance creates prejudice in the heart. Living by the golden rule, reverse the situation and look at it from another's perspective. If an atheist wouldn't hire you because he thought Christians were insane, that's prejudice and I'm sure you'd be upset about it (rightfully so).
A disagreement in belief structure is not relevant to someone doing a good job unless that individual's job would involve ministry of the Christian belief system.
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Good point, but if I realize the employer was an Atheist then I most likely would not want to work there.
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“He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt.”
“Success and failure are both difficult to endure. Along with success come drugs, divorce, fornication, bullying, travel, meditation, medication, depression, neurosis and suicide. With failure comes failure.”
“The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on.”
“When I grow up I want to be a little boy.”
^ Joseph Heller
Last edited by The Pianist; 03-03-2007 at 11:31 PM.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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03-03-2007, 11:49 PM
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Jesus ate with the godless. Where do you come off discriminating against them?
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03-03-2007, 11:57 PM
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Jesus ate with the godless. Where do you come off discriminating against them?
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When have I discriminated against someone? This is basically to hear different opinions on this matter, relax lol.
Btw, Jesus ate with the pagan.
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“He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt.”
“Success and failure are both difficult to endure. Along with success come drugs, divorce, fornication, bullying, travel, meditation, medication, depression, neurosis and suicide. With failure comes failure.”
“The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on.”
“When I grow up I want to be a little boy.”
^ Joseph Heller
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03-04-2007, 12:30 AM
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Alright. I'm closing this thread for a couple of reasons:
1) You don't get to dictate whether or not a certain group (or any individuals outside your group) can or cannot reply.
2) Your discrimination is outrageous, and hypocritical. If I were to start a thread calling all Christians misguided idiots you would spam the suggestion board (as well as Girl's inbox) with anti-Ristaron hatred.
3) Again, you don't get to dictate whether or not groups can or cannot participate. This forum is for everyone, not your precious 'elite'.
If you have a problem with it, that's just too fucking bad.
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03-04-2007, 12:47 PM
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To be fair, the thread title is "A question for fellow Christians"....implying that he wants a Christian point of view on this. When he typed "Only Christians answer this" I don't believe he was trying to be a jerk (although a simple "please" at the end of the statement would have changed the whole tone), but was drawing off of past experiences in this forum....in short, he knew other people would reply when he simply wanted a christian view on it.
Anyway, on the topic at hand- from a legal standpoint, it is considered discrimination to not hire someone based on their religious (or lack of) views, and you would probably find yourself getting sued.
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