Warning: Disturbing Images US Soldiers Killing Dogs For Fun

**Brother of Yeshua** · #1 (**permalink**) 03-05-2008, 04:10 PM

So heads up, this stuff makes my stomach turn, and I've sat the whole way through 2girls1cup, BME pain olympics, some asian girl forcing herself to vomit, then eating the vomit, and, well, you get the idea. I've seen a lot of sick shit on the internet. This takes the cake. I've blabbered a bunch below, so feel free to contemplate if you want to view these videos as you read my response.

I've always liked animals more than most people, and this makes my heart break when I see this stuff. Not to say I hate the people doing it. These people are sick and suffering major PTSD (Post-Traumatic-Stress Disorder, formerly shell-shock if you're more familiar with that, although PTSD is not limited to war veterans). These are some of the lesser talked about repercussions of US military aggression and dominance. This is why this war is not and was never worth it imo. These young men in these videos have had their lives destroyed needlessly by a government invading a nation under false pretenses, and after doing the one and only thing we should of done, removing our own mistake (Saddam), we continue to impede their progress, brutalize their people (there's a video of soldiers throwing grenades at sheep herders), and slowly use them as a mere pawn to position ourselves for a takeover of Iran. Meanwhile, we still haven't caught the guy who supposedly started all this shit, and recently in a duh moment on Fox News, Bush stated he was beginning to doubt if we would catch Osama during his presidency (a;sljehglauwivznfvk is all I have to say to that).

But I digress.

This is not about violence vs. non-violence for me, and I am not trying to make it about that. I have taken a personal vow of pacifism, but that is my choice because of my own beliefs, and I recognize the value violence can have in certain situations. While I would never promote it, I can not condemn any behavior in self defense (or defense of another on behalf of those people). This war is neither defending us, nor is it on our behalf. I condemn the actions because of the motive behind them, which is slowly wearing through the thin facade of "fighting terrorism" and "defending liberty" more and more each day.

I am trained in the Mental Health field, and everyday I help manage a load of 10 girls, all diagnosed with various MH issues (over half are diagnosed with PTSD), but you don't have to be the next Siggy Freud to know that mutilating and killing animals for fun is a fucked up thing to do. These are anti-social, border-line personality traits. If these behaviors continue long enough, you end up with a sociopath. This is Ted Bundy shit we're talking about folks.

Again, I'm not trying to condemn the soldiers in this, just point out that we are not only putting them physically in harms way (which any war does, no matter what it is) but we are putting them at risk to emotionally scar them for life, to the point where they are no longer functioning in society. And when we have a bunch of PTSD strung out soldiers coming home to a collapsing economy, well, you do the math.

The latest stats are FIFTY PERCENT of troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan are being diagnosed with PTSD. I just learned this at a training I was at today for work (I left the source in my mailbox at work, but if anyone can't find this stat, I'll be happy to get the reference).

Alright enough of my BS. Here's the videos. The first is the original puppy video, then an infowars link with more videos.

YouTube - us soldier throws puppy off cliff

More Displays of Anti-Social Behavior

Zyanya · 03-05-2008, 04:14 PM

Am so against Animal Abuse
we should like write a persion about this
animals are goign existed because of them
and other people i know it to survival but come on

eLracho · 03-05-2008, 04:40 PM

"The video of a US soldier hurling a defenseless puppy from a cliff top in Iraq..." Is that what this video is of? I don't really want to watch it, but sometimes I watch that stuff out of morbid curiosity (e.g. "BME Pain Olympics" and such.) It's much harder for me to stomach animal abuse, though.

Anyway, if that's what it's of, I probably shouldn't watch it. Well, I shouldn't watch it anyway, but...yeah...

**Brother of Yeshua** · 03-05-2008, 05:27 PM

Yeah that's the one. It's only a few seconds, but it's awful.

The other link is to videos of dogs being blown up, shot at, and some other awful stuff.

eLracho · 03-05-2008, 05:34 PM

I better not watch them, although, like I said, I am morbidly curious. I'll never be able to get it out of my mind.

Ever seen the movie Single White Female? It's an older movie. I still can see what happened to the poor puppy in my head, and I saw that a looong time ago. (And that was friggin' fake.)

**Brother of Yeshua** · 03-05-2008, 05:56 PM

No I did not see that movie (but there are plenty of disturbing images I can't get out of my head either). Ironically quite a few in the mainstream media have adopted the CONSPIRACY THEORY that the movie was doctored somehow by someone, and it's a fake.

Even if that's true, I'd love for the MSM to answer the link with the other half dozen or so videos (and I did a search after finding these, there are plenty more out there for them to make cover up stories for).

Effing media.

03-05-2008, 06:03 PM

OMFG! I can't believe that someone would do that. If that soldier hasn't gotten in trouble yet he should.

**Brother of Yeshua** · 03-05-2008, 06:11 PM

The military made an "official statement" saying more or less "this is bad" but with bigger, more significant sounding words. That's about all anyone has said on the matter, other than media mouthpieces saying it's all a big conspiracy hoax.

dancesintherain · 03-05-2008, 06:58 PM

That is just wrong. There is no other explanation to that then that. I know war is tough and there are things that happen during war that is just down right wrong, but to throw an innocent puppy off a cliff? What in the hell possessed that soldier to do that. It is a disgrace to the US Military to call that guy a soldier. Even PTSD does not justify what that guy did.

Static · 03-05-2008, 07:49 PM

They have his name, I think one of the guys in the video says his name on the video...pure genius right there... But I did hear something about a possible courtmarshall, but I doubt something that serious will happen.

Plus, I'd like to point out, this is one video of one little insignificant puppy in the middle of a war zone, don't get me wrong, It is FUCKED UP what the guy did, no question about that, but a lot of people seem to forget that this shit happens EVERY SINGLE DAY there, and not just to innocent little animals, whole entire families have been torn appart by this war, let's not forget about them...