VIDEO: Warehouse to Hold Protesters Caught on Film

**Brother of Yeshua** · #1 (**permalink**) 08-16-2008, 08:28 AM

YouTube - Detention camp Setup for DNC Protestors and Mass Arrests

Static · 08-17-2008, 12:29 AM

Wow...

**Brother of Yeshua** · 08-17-2008, 05:29 PM

That's about all you can say.....

**Ristaron** · 08-17-2008, 06:30 PM

What are those? Oh, just your liberties... being eroded away without a fight...

**Brother of Yeshua** · 08-17-2008, 10:42 PM

At this point, we deserve the government we get. As concerning as this is, what power do we really have to do anything? Too many dominos are in place and resources are stacked heavily to our disadvantage. Sure bring in a mob, and militarized police show up with all the new high tech riot gear the government has been showing off, then lock you up here anyway.

You can make a scene but will it really do any good?

The government really isn't vulnerable at this point in time. People are too uneducated, too disorganized, too scared shitless to move. Not to mention that people are forced into their societal cogs to make ends meet, and money is worth less and less these days. Who has time? The free time I do have, I have laundry to do, I need to buy food, I need to clean the house, I need to spend an hour or so a day doing something that is actually fun. I've invested several thousand dollars in music equipment to record my own music that I have yet to have time to use. I personally can't add "organize a protest" to my to do list.

I don't mean to come off as combative with you Rist, these are really just my frustrations with wanting to do something about all this shit and feeling completely helpless to the whole fucking mess.

**Ristaron** · 08-18-2008, 02:42 AM

I'm all for 4n7hr4x's recommendation of passive resistance. It worked for Ghandi.

The only problem is that, unlike 1930s India, people in the U.S. get their information from Faux News, not word-of-mouth. If someone rose up as a political leader and advocate for an overhaul, it would be blacklisted by the media and essentially squashed before it could make a ruckus.

As for your plan, BOY, witness Ron Paul's defeat at the hands of media blackouts. Slowly emerging as an advocate of all that the people in power hate is not going to end any better.

Sometimes I think that a nuclear holocaust would be necessary to solve the problems we have... press the 'reset' button...

These are words. They are words that I am posting because BT is being a bitch and telling me that I am posting duplicate posts. Take this, BT. You can put this in your pipe and smoke it!

Edit: I don't fucking know why, but BT is putting this post above two posts by 4n7hr4x and Brother of Yeshua that I am talking about. Obviously BT has forgotten that time is a fixed construct and that effects don't fucking preceed causes, because it's putting this post above the ones I'm talking about that came BEFORE IT!

4n7hr4x · 08-18-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother of Yeshua

At this point, we deserve the government we get. As concerning as this is, what power do we really have to do anything? Too many dominos are in place and resources are stacked heavily to our disadvantage. Sure bring in a mob, and militarized police show up with all the new high tech riot gear the government has been showing off, then lock you up here anyway.

You can make a scene but will it really do any good?

The government really isn't vulnerable at this point in time. People are too uneducated, too disorganized, too scared shitless to move. Not to mention that people are forced into their societal cogs to make ends meet, and money is worth less and less these days. Who has time? The free time I do have, I have laundry to do, I need to buy food, I need to clean the house, I need to spend an hour or so a day doing something that is actually fun. I've invested several thousand dollars in music equipment to record my own music that I have yet to have time to use. I personally can't add "organize a protest" to my to do list.

I don't mean to come off as combative with you Rist, these are really just my frustrations with wanting to do something about all this shit and feeling completely helpless to the whole fucking mess.

You're right about us not having any time. And when you look back at it all you can't help but wonder if that wasn't the plan from the start. Make sure that when people aren't AT work, that they are using all their remaining time just surviving, so that no one has the time or the energy to do anything.

You have to realize that this fascist machine which has taken control of our country is like any other machine... meaning it needs fuel to work. You can kill it two ways, either beat it with a hammer until you break something, or cut off its fuel. You see as of right now, we are all feeding this machine, the same very machine that is working against us is running because we are feeding it. Everyone that has a job, is doing their part to keep this country running.... to keep the machine running. If this country stops the machine will stop, I'm talking about nobody showing up to work, mass scale walkouts,... the works.

Now I know you guys are probably sick of me advertising this revolution on here, telling people to not go to work... You have to understand something... this problem will not go away of we ask it to nicely. It will not go away if we try to elect "better" president, it will not go away if we sign a petition, it will not go away if we protest in Washington. We've gone well past the point were the solution would be so easy.

If Americans want their country back there are a few things to consider:
- This movement, revolution, if it is going to happen will need a leader, in a figurative sense. If there is ever going to be one person that stands up and tries to unite us all. I can tell you that if that happens the entire revolution will be over as quickly as it takes a bullet to reach that man's head. We need a figurative leader, and a short list of universally agreed upon goals that we wish to achieve through this revolution.
- Anything we do must be quick. Even if we stop working, stop feeding the machine, it won't be long before we run out of supplies. Its working people like you and me that put food on the shelves of our grocery stores, if we stop working how long until the food runs out? Whatever time that is, is the time we have to work with.

I think its great that we know where that warehouse is because now we can break into that place and get everyone out.

**Brother of Yeshua** · 08-18-2008, 05:26 PM

You're not taking into account the fact that such an event would cause hysteria, making the short time you speak of even shorter as people rush to stores to stockpile everything they can.

So we stop going to work and do what exactly? How will not going to work help? Organize a coup? Same deal, militarized police, high-tech gadgets, blah blah blah, all back to prison. Non-violent resistance? You'd have to assume people wouldn't puss out after the first time they get tortured, and you'd have to get them to volunteer in the first place. The people meeting would spend so much time arguing that it wouldn't even matter.

Aid to any resistance always comes from both sides. It would be wiser, I feel, to weasel into the system, staying under the radar and accumulating "power" as it's defined by these mongoloids, then using that accrued power against them. At least, that's what I feel is best for me.

That may not work either, I could end up just getting arrested, but I just feel that I can rely on myself way more than I can rely on a mass of people all working together in, let's say 7-10 days is probably what this would take until things stopped moving so well. That's also assuming desperate people aren't scrambling onto jobs that are available in various areas, and assuming that the government wouldn't just start outright hiring illegal immigrants to combat the "strike." So the whole stay home from work effort could very realistically result in no change, a whole new group of uneducated to leech off of, and the rest of us are out on the streets.

I probably sounded like a dick, but it's really not personal, I just consider this part of some sort of planning process, and I think it's worth noting the problems with that idea, since we're discussing the whole "what can we do" aspect of things.

**Brother of Yeshua** · 08-19-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ristaron

I'm all for 4n7hr4x's recommendation of passive resistance. It worked for Ghandi.

The only problem is that, unlike 1930s India, people in the U.S. get their information from Faux News, not word-of-mouth. If someone rose up as a political leader and advocate for an overhaul, it would be blacklisted by the media and essentially squashed before it could make a ruckus.

As for your plan, BOY, witness Ron Paul's defeat at the hands of media blackouts. Slowly emerging as an advocate of all that the people in power hate is not going to end any better.

Sometimes I think that a nuclear holocaust would be necessary to solve the problems we have... press the 'reset' button...

Again, perhaps we will get what we deserve...

EDIT: 4nt7hr4x, I'll make you a deal. If Obama is elected and we go full blown socialism, and I get the same no matter what, I'll stop going to work with you

4n7hr4x · 08-20-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother of Yeshua

Again, perhaps we will get what we deserve...

EDIT: 4nt7hr4x, I'll make you a deal. If Obama is elected and we go full blown socialism, and I get the same no matter what, I'll stop going to work with you

I think you guys are missing the point... I'm not suggesting we just sit at home for a week and somehow all of our problems go away. We stop working so that we have the time needed to physically remove these corrupt assholes from power.

I say we round them all up, put them on a C-130 cargo plane, fly them over Baghdad, hand them a parachute and shove them out the back door. You know... give them a chance to help out the poor poor people of Iraq, since they care about them so much.

Obama or McCain... it doesn't matter at this point. They've both been bought. And I don't know why everyone here is so fearful of Socialism... have any of you lived in a socialist country? Or are you basing your opinions of it soley on the information that has been provided to you by the media and this government... the same media and government that you have now realized has been lying to you all along? Or maybe you just feel socialism in particular is a good idea on paper that goes sour quickly in real life. But in that case what about the current form of "Democracy" that we are blessed with in the USA? Do you think that what we have now can even be considered a Democracy?

The point is that any form of government can become corrupt and fall apart. The key is to keep the people in power under close watch and to keep the people educated so that they can see the tyranny coming before its too late. I prefer socialism, I think its a great system. And NO, contrary to popular belief a janitor does not make the same hourly wage as a brain surgeon.