Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates

JumpInTheFire · #1 (**permalink**) 01-30-2008, 12:46 PM

Source: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates

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Rudy Giuliani, who is widely tipped to drop out of the Republican race today and endorse John McCain, admitted yesterday that "Ron Paul won all the debates" because of his resonating message of individual liberty and personal responsibility.

"Ron Paul won all the debates," stated Rudy Giuliani in his speech conceding defeat in the Florida Primary to John McCain. "Government works best when it empowers people to take responsibilities for their own lives.”

Such an admission is rare considering the size of Giuliani's ego and his numerous spats with Paul on the campaign trail.

The two famously clashed during the second debate on Fox News in May of last year, when Giuliani challenged Paul's assertion that U.S. foreign policy increases the risk of terrorism.

The Texas Congressman also slammed Giuliani's support of a national ID card on an MSNBC appearance a month later.

Despite the fact that one vote per IP and phone number text polls consistently showed Ron Paul to be the winner in almost every debate, establishment hacks, Neo-Libs and Neo-Cons routinely denied the fact that the Congressman had come out on top.

Ron Paul's prediction that Rudy Giuliani would fail in Florida and be forced to quit appears to have been borne out by the former New York Mayor's poor showing in the Sunshine State.

Giuliani is set to back his fellow establishment Neo-Con McCain with the understanding that he would be rewarded by a role in a potential future McCain administration.

However, with Hillary Clinton being the elite's anointed one with the added luxury of favorable rigged voting machines, it seems McCain's role will be to act as a stooge and ensure the Clinton-Bush dynasty continues for at least another four years

rightwinger · 01-30-2008, 12:59 PM

"who won all the debates"

(crowd laughs)

"on that thing where you call in....etc"

(crowd laughs again)

What a misleading article. But, it's Prisonplanet.

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Ron Paul's prediction that Rudy Giuliani would fail in Florida and be forced to quit

Ron Paul's prediction? Everyone made that prediction. It was evident. Giuliani had poured all his resources into that state....and was polling 3rd.

**Opunaya** · 01-30-2008, 01:02 PM

I'd believe this more if it didn't sound so biased.

rightwinger · 01-30-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Opunaya

I'd believe this more if it didn't sound so biased.

They have the video right on the article..which is questionable. Either the person who wrote it is very stupid, or he's potentially trying to mislead his readers. Given the source is Prisonplanet, I wouldn't be surprised if both were true.

Stossel · 01-30-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Opunaya

I'd believe this more if it didn't sound so biased.

My thoughts exactly.

rightwinger · 01-30-2008, 01:42 PM

There is nothing to believe. Giuliani was making a joke about the after debate polls on Fox News, that had Ron Paul winning all the time. He wasn't giving his personal opinion. He was referencing "those things where you call in" and it got a laugh from the audience.

The person who wrote that article is being intentionally deceitful.

Static · 01-30-2008, 03:57 PM

Oh for a second there I thought Guillianni was human, I guess not thought if he was just making a joke about a statement.

Now get the fuck out of here and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. (<-- to Mr. Guillianni)

JumpInTheFire · 01-30-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

They have the video right on the article..which is questionable. Either the person who wrote it is very stupid, or he's potentially trying to mislead his readers. Given the source is Prisonplanet, I wouldn't be surprised if both were true.

The article itself isnt unbiased, i won't debate that
however i posted it for the fact of the "ron paul winning the debates" not for any other reason

And for those who did vote in the after polls, you are not able to vote more than once, which Hannity tried to make up as an excuse

Stossel · 01-30-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Static

Oh for a second there I thought Guillianni was human, I guess not thought if he was just making a joke about a statement.

Now get the fuck out of here and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. (<-- to Mr. Guillianni)

I'd figure a joke would make him more human. That's just me though.

rightwinger · 01-30-2008, 08:33 PM

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The article itself isnt unbiased, i won't debate that
however i posted it for the fact of the "ron paul winning the debates" not for any other reason

But Giuliani wasn't saying Ron Paul won the debates. He was mocking the unscientific nature of phone in polls. The "Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won all the Debates" headline is completely disingenuous.

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And for those who did vote in the after polls, you are not able to vote more than once, which Hannity tried to make up as an excuse

So you feel a majority of viewers felt that Ron Paul won the debate?

They block IPs. But that doesn't stop from multiple voting, and polls can be hacked and whatnot. The Fox News post-debate polls, aren't scientific.