China is the worlds biggest problem

Walker · #1 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 10:41 AM

A nation with the worlds biggest population

A nation with the worlds biggest army

A nation with the worlds biggest communist government

A nation with a stranglehold on world trade

A nation that continues to suppress its own people

A nation that nobody can really do anything about

Clearly a nation that represents the worlds biggest problem

- yea so those maybe very outspoken statements but China is a serious problem and what makes it so serious is the fact that there is no way to really handle them without warping the world economy...if you think Iran is the biggest problem think again, China has the ability to help in the effort to turn N Korea and Iran away from nuclear arms and yet they do nothing about it...maybe its because they are part of the problem, but in a way that we cannot do anything about without serious repercussions.

**Brother of Yeshua** · 11-12-2007, 12:41 PM

China is what most of the world will look like unless something happens to these mad men and women vieing for world domination.

**SARS-expl0ted** · 11-12-2007, 01:24 PM

What is wrong with communism?

Garret Kirby · 11-12-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by [ Jew Blaster ]

What is wrong with communism?

the theory of communism is not bad.... its just the fact that it doesnt work in a realistic world... the actual practice just doesnt work

Static · 11-12-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Garret Kirby

the theory of communism is not bad.... its just the fact that it doesnt work in a realistic world... the actual practice just doesnt work

exactly, the idea is all well and good, but when there's zero encentive for me to go to school and get a higher education, then why the hell would I? If I work my ass off for 12 years in school to become a doctor, I still get paid the same amount as the guy out back digging the ditch, doesn't make much sense if you think about it. Sure everyone gets to eat but would you rather be eating bread and water day in day out instead of maybe working a little harder and getting that T-bone steak every once in a while?

**Brother of Yeshua** · 11-12-2007, 05:06 PM

Also, Karl Marx was COMMISSIONED to write the communist manifesto by, you guessed it, rich and powerful men.

It's propaganda by itself. Though I can't say it isn't a beautiful vision, but one that can't ever work the way it does on paper.

Besides, China is more a fascist state than anything else. Just because everyone of the average citizens is treated like shit doesn't make it truly communistic.

WillyBubba · 11-12-2007, 07:40 PM

I honestly don't like the idea of communism. It's a bad idea. People are not the same, and equality doesn't mean we all get the same wage or have the same house and what not. I find it much more humanistic and romantic to make my living by producing something useful and getting compensation for what my work is worth, not a government subsidy because it isn't actually that valuable or an artificially enforced government handicap on how much I can charge because not everybody can pay for the actual value of my product or service.

On an entirely different note, China is also a problem because it has virtually zero environmental or humanitarian regulations. The number of men that die in mines every year in China is a number that hasn't been seen in modern nations for nearly a century. Not to mention compensation to their families is dismal and ineffective to say the least. Furthermore, they have some of the most polluted rivers in the world. Poor villages that have lived by them for years, relying on them for everyday activities and also to produce the rice by which much of China lives have no say or choice but to accept that the government will pollute their waters and they will still use it. Cancer is something like four times more prevalent in such villages than other communities around the world.

Finally, I haven't knowingly and willingly bought Chinese goods for at least a year now. 'Made in China' is an instant no for me. Next come companies I know buy a lot of goods from China, most notably toy companies (which doesn't effect me much anyway, save for buying presents). Last of all, a lot of our food actually comes from China, which I find frightening given the level they pollute, but I have found it much harder to boycott food entirely as where it comes from often depends on what season it is. I try not to buy Chinese goods, but don't have a hissy fit if I can't find out where my goods are from. It's my personal protest.

**Brother of Yeshua** · 11-12-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WillyBubba

I honestly don't like the idea of communism. It's a bad idea. People are not the same, and equality doesn't mean we all get the same wage or have the same house and what not. I find it much more humanistic and romantic to make my living by producing something useful and getting compensation for what my work is worth, not a government subsidy because it isn't actually that valuable or an artificially enforced government handicap on how much I can charge because not everybody can pay for the actual value of my product or service.

On an entirely different note, China is also a problem because it has virtually zero environmental or humanitarian regulations. The number of men that die in mines every year in China is a number that hasn't been seen in modern nations for nearly a century. Not to mention compensation to their families is dismal and ineffective to say the least. Furthermore, they have some of the most polluted rivers in the world. Poor villages that have lived by them for years, relying on them for everyday activities and also to produce the rice by which much of China lives have no say or choice but to accept that the government will pollute their waters and they will still use it. Cancer is something like four times more prevalent in such villages than other communities around the world.

Finally, I haven't knowingly and willingly bought Chinese goods for at least a year now. 'Made in China' is an instant no for me. Next come companies I know buy a lot of goods from China, most notably toy companies (which doesn't effect me much anyway, save for buying presents). Last of all, a lot of our food actually comes from China, which I find frightening given the level they pollute, but I have found it much harder to boycott food entirely as where it comes from often depends on what season it is. I try not to buy Chinese goods, but don't have a hissy fit if I can't find out where my goods are from. It's my personal protest.

Almost 50% of our food is imported, and the vast majority of our imported food comes from China.

We're looking at probably a solid 30% of our food coming from China.

China controls more than people want to realize. America has wasted countless men, resources, and time with a "war on communism," Yet they have consistently left China untouched.

The UN has not made any effort to allow Hong Kong to be recognized as an independent nation, at the behest of the Chinese government.

Recently, I posted an article regarding a Candanian TV channel's decision to pull an expose on the abuse of human rights in China. Once again, this was under pressure of Chinese government.

In all fairness, what are we really going to do to China? If someone said "Attack China!" we'd all say "you're fucking crazy."

So instead we're bamboozled into attacking people with little actual threat to us.

All the while, China's tendrils creep deeper.

Ask yourself what happens when the most effecient fascist dictatorship becomes the world superpower......

**Ristaron** · 11-12-2007, 08:18 PM