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Old 07-09-2008, 07:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As a Christian, I've talked to a lot of people who have made certain assumptions about why I believe what I believe. Without going into details, I would like to say that this has left me feeling misrepresented, misunderstood, and most of all, irritated. So in an effort to keep from doing the same to the people who tend to be the most at odds with my beliefs, I have a question.

Why are you an Atheist?

I don't ask out of some pompous desire to convert you. I don't intend to try to do that here. I just want to avoid causing undue irritation and keep from insulting people.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why am I an atheist? Many reasons...

-Because I believe knowing the absolute truth about something is what we should all strive for in our lives. With religion it seems the truth is already known, nothing left to strive for.

-Because I believe religion devides humanity as a whole. It devides Christians and Muslims, Islamic people and Atheists, it virtually devides everyone who is not part of that sect. I think that if religion was abolished off the face of the planet, many people would see how stupid it really is to fight over one piece of 'holy land' or kill hundreds of thousands of people in the name of a God and his 'devine word'.

-Because I love science, and most of what science has already discovered to be true directly conflicts with what most religions teach, ex. Big Bang, Evolution, etc...

-Because the idea of there being a God responsible for the creation of the entire universe and everything in it is frankly absurd. I look at it from a subjective view and it honestly amazes me how many people have bought into any religious story throughout human history.

-Because I have NEVER seen anything supernatural in my life, not once. And I am confident in saying that I never will.

-Because the Bible (or any other 'devine holy book') that claims to be the word of God has more contradictions than a scitzo's autobiography.

-Because I value human rights over what a 2,000 year old book says.

-Because if a man claiming to be Jesus Christ came about now a days, the majority of the population would not believe him, and he'd be thrown in a mental institution, and the only reason the 'real Jesus Christ' wasn't was because we didn't have any such places back then.

-Because there is absolutely ZERO physical evidence to support religion.

-Because I know snakes can't talk and men don't come from mud and women don't come from men's rib, of which came from mud...

-Because Noah and his arc are complete bullshit.

-Because the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and it is confirmed.

-Because the universe is 13.7 billion years old, and it is confirmed.

-Because religion holds back lifesaving technologies that humanity could exponentially benifit from, such as stem cell research.

-Because people believe this outrageous story so much, they would actually give up their life before denouncing their imaginary friend.

-Because it is considered a good thing to have faith in God.

-Because religion is never criticized in the mainstream.

-Because nobody ever questions what they believe, they just believe it because they believe it...and they teach their kids the same shit, so their kids just believe it because that's just what they believe...and the cycle continues and we produce people like Jerry Fallwell and Hagee...

-Because I believe the promise of heaven from any mortal human on earth should be considered psycological torture.

-Because being gay is a natural occurance, and it is confirmed, yet religion says otherwise.

-Because religion never changes, never learns, never accepts new evidence, it always stays the same...

I'm sure I could come up with a ton more, but there you go for a start.



May I ask why you are a Christian?
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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May I ask why you are a Christian?
Alright. I'll answer this one.

I do consider myself Christian. Although I'm not the Hell, Fire and Brimstone Christian I am still a Christian.

I do believe in a higher power. Whether it be the pack of cigs in front of me or my perception of God...I still have a higher power.

I do believe that there is a Heaven and Hell. It may not be what everyone is told but I do believe that there is a place that we all go.

Yes I do believe that you need to accept your higher power into your life.

The perception of God that I have is a very loving person. He make not like what you do or how you live but He loves you no matter what.

My answers may piss off a lot of Christians but its what I believe. Whether it's right or wrong they are my beliefs.


I do have to say Static you do have some valid points. I respect your decision and I honor your points.

I just thought I'd answer your question...even though it was directed towards me.

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Of course you can.

Because I believe there is more to this world than very intelligent meat.

Because I believe in both good and evil, and to me, without a god there is no purpose to either. They just become concepts to use to make people do what you want.

Because I want to show people that people like Jerry Falwell and Fred Phelps are fools who know nothing of what it means to be a Christian.

Because I believe that humanity as a whole is evil. Not in the everyone is just as bad as Hitler sense, but I really see no hope for man outside of something supernatural.

Because the idea that a single celled organism, something incredibly complex and requiring so many different abilities just to exist, came to life due to heat, lightning, and the proper parts happening to be there, is just as ridiculous as any other idea on how life originated.

Because I want the world to know that there is no Holy Land, and that to die for the sake of some dirt and buildings is pointless.

Because no one ever agrees that evolution has quite a few very large holes in it.

Because I want to share the God that I know. The one that is loving, gracious, and just.

Because how the Earth and the universe came into existence doesn't matter one iota.

Because for most people there isn't a difference between putting your trust in a two thousand year old book and the man behind the podium, than there is in putting your trust in a textbook and and the man behind the desk.

Because everyone should know that the bible says Jesus died to save sinners, not straight republicans.

Because there is at least one absolute in this universe.

Because for me atheism logically leads to nihilism, and since I know that isn't true, I believe in a God. (I realize that not every atheist is a nihilist, I'm just stating that's how it works out for me.)

Because I believe in an ultimate truth, and that we should be striving to get closer to it. And yes, I do believe that ultimate truth comes from the bible.

Because Christianity is the only religion that teaches grace.

That's a lot of them I might could come up with more if I was pressed, but those are the big ones.
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Hey RazielRedel, I just realized you're new to the site, so welcome aboard buddy, I hope you enjoy it here. Most of us don't go for the personal attack thing, if we respond to something, it's usually nothing personal, just simple debate to get different opinions and nothing is meant to be taken personally. Religion happens to be one of my favorite subjects. With that said, I'd like to respond to your post.

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Of course you can.

Because I believe there is more to this world than very intelligent meat.
I also believe there's more to this world than intelligent meat, I'm in complete awe everytime I look into the sky and see how vast the universe is with my own two eyes, everytime I think about how simple atoms inside of stars became these very thoughts that I'm thinking now, and how the universe and everything in it is connected to everything else. Yes, I too believe there is far more to this world than we know, I just do not believe it has to be an intelligent being.

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Because I believe in both good and evil, and to me, without a god there is no purpose to either. They just become concepts to use to make people do what you want.
I see the very opposite. With even the idea of the existence of a God, the men promoting that idea are the men with the power. If those men can make it against the societies law to oppose, reject or deny that God and that idea from being taught throughout the society, those men enherit power over the masses, all in the name of an idea that cannot be questioned. I believe you do not need a God to know what is right and wrong. There have been different scientific studies done to confirm that the 'morality gene' is common within the animal kingdom, yet homo-sapiens are the only ones with any sort of holy book, or God. Without God, you would still know what is right and wrong, figures also show that Christian/religious people commit just as many crimes as atheist's do, what book they happen to follow, or not at all has no correlation to their behavior within society.

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Because I want to show people that people like Jerry Falwell and Fred Phelps are fools who know nothing of what it means to be a Christian.
But they would argue they are the ones who truly follow Christ's word, right? This is common among Christians particularly who have conflicting ideas within Christianity. Wouldn't it make sense that all the different denominations of Christianity would all agree with eachother, and so would their followers?

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Because I believe that humanity as a whole is evil. Not in the everyone is just as bad as Hitler sense, but I really see no hope for man outside of something supernatural.
Do you feel this makes you give up on mankind on earth? That you will just worry about the next life and not put too much effort into this one to make it a better place?

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Because the idea that a single celled organism, something incredibly complex and requiring so many different abilities just to exist, came to life due to heat, lightning, and the proper parts happening to be there, is just as ridiculous as any other idea on how life originated.
The origin of life is a very well thought out theory, A-biogenisis. You're correct, it's just a theory, but the evidence supporting it, the experiments performed in labs, the ongoing research discovering new things all the time all support the theory. Scientists are on the verge of creating synthetic life in laboratory conditions using the exact same elements they believe to be around during the formation of the first cells on earth. There are a ton of things that have to be exactly right in order for life to emerge from non-life, but it is not impossible. I thought up this example one day sitting outside, I heard Sam Harris say something I'll probably never forget; Astronomically improbable things happen every day. So one day, when I was sitting in my chair outside, I saw a leaf drop onto my knee, do you know the odds of me being in that exact spot to have that exact leaf fall and land on my knee at that very moment in time? The tree spent years growing, then went through who knows how many different seasons, growing an uncountable number of leaves...then grew that leaf, grew the entire spring, entire summer, then fell when I just happened to be sitting in that very spot. Astronomically improbably things happen every day my friend.

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Because no one ever agrees that evolution has quite a few very large holes in it.
Evolution is just a theory, yes, but to say that it has quite a few very large holes in it is disingenuous. What holes? There is so much evidence to support the theory of evolution it is generally accepted as the furthest advance in biology we have to date, and the backbone of biology is formed on the theory of evolution. Medicine's are created to combat disease using the theory of evolution, knowing and showing exactly how mutations occur within cells. Even if the theory of evolution was proved wrong today, that doesn't mean any other theory (creationism) would be right.

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Because how the Earth and the universe came into existence doesn't matter one iota.
It matters to the people asking the questions about our origins and our universes origins. It matters to a lot of people. Accepting the answer "God did it" is offensive to the human race. The origin of everything is the foundation of religion, without that question, there would be no religion.

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Because for most people there isn't a difference between putting your trust in a two thousand year old book and the man behind the podium, than there is in putting your trust in a textbook and and the man behind the desk.
There are some fundamental differences between the two. Lets take the man behind the podium for instance, without you there, without anyone there sitting in church listening to him speak, would he be there, speaking? Probably not right? The man clearly has motivation to keep you in that seat listening to him speak. Now lets take the other man, sitting behind the desk asking important questions about the universe, what's his motivation? His motivation is to learn new things, to discover without any bias, to look upon everything the universe has to offer and figure out the workings behind it all for your benifit, for my benifit, for nothing else. Doesn't it seem slightly ignorant to accept a 2,000 year old book as the way you should live your life today, with todays standards of society? Back when it was written none of these discoveries were ever even thought of, so the authors of the bible had no knowlege of the cosmos or DNA or how cigarette smoke affects your lungs, nothing, so of course none of it would be present within it, and the explination given is that all that stuff isn't real science, and science is evil, or science has some sort of agenda to erase God and religion from the world. This leads many believers not to accept scientific findings as true or even helpful to humanity.

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Because there is at least one absolute in this universe.
Where is the evidence?

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Because for me atheism logically leads to nihilism, and since I know that isn't true, I believe in a God. (I realize that not every atheist is a nihilist, I'm just stating that's how it works out for me.)
I can only speak for myself here, but I believe a 100% atheistic society would be much better for humanity. Look at the levels of national happiness with the percentage of the population of believers, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Amsterdam, much of Europe infact is atheist, and they rank the highest on people within the population who are happy. It makes sense really, if all the people realize they only have this one life to live, a lot fewer of them will go out and commit murder or crimes against other people because the idea of heaven or hell enforces those people that, who know's, they might be able to just repent or ask for forgiveness and still get into heaven down the line, even after they may have committed something incredibly terrible and recieved 20 years in prison, sure they're youth is gone, but if they're truly sorry for what they did, they'll still get into heaven. I know not every believer thinks like this, but a significan percentage would probably tell you that if they committed a terrible crime and were truly sorry for it afterwards, their God would still allow them into heaven... I believe atheism would lead to a more intelligent population, which in turn would lead to less violence, more economic growth, more stability, more freedoms and rights, more happiness among all.

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Because Christianity is the only religion that teaches grace.
Zen Buddhism teaches many things, much like all the other religions out there. I guarantee you could find plenty of people within any religion who would tell you that their religion is the only one that teaches grace. Again, conflicting ideas within religion itself, every single one of them saying they are the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH" and you must follow them or burn in hell, with so many different religions, if I could quote Sam Harris again "you should automatically assume you're going to hell, just by the sheer odds"...
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I dislike being called an atheist, although I am one. Reason being, I dislike the kind of people who associate themselves as atheists. They do nothing but cry about how religion is 100%, completely false and look down on religious people. Religious people may do the same, they look down on people with different beliefs in them. It's just one giant disgusting circle of blah blah blah.

But here's the main reason why I'm an atheist: it's simple.
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I'm not quite sure if I am one...I kind of believe in some higher power, I just think whomever it is doesn't like me.
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Heh, new isn't quite the word. I've been here for quite a while, I just don't post much. I have a tendency to do a lot of lurking before saying anything, and then doing more lurking afterwards. But I do appreciate the welcome.

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I also believe there's more to this world than intelligent meat, I'm in complete awe everytime I look into the sky and see how vast the universe is with my own two eyes, everytime I think about how simple atoms inside of stars became these very thoughts that I'm thinking now, and how the universe and everything in it is connected to everything else. Yes, I too believe there is far more to this world than we know, I just do not believe it has to be an intelligent being.
I agree with everything said there. I just happen to think that an intelligent being is a part of it.

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I see the very opposite. With even the idea of the existence of a God, the men promoting that idea are the men with the power. If those men can make it against the societies law to oppose, reject or deny that God and that idea from being taught throughout the society, those men enherit power over the masses, all in the name of an idea that cannot be questioned. I believe you do not need a God to know what is right and wrong. There have been different scientific studies done to confirm that the 'morality gene' is common within the animal kingdom, yet homo-sapiens are the only ones with any sort of holy book, or God. Without God, you would still know what is right and wrong, figures also show that Christian/religious people commit just as many crimes as atheist's do, what book they happen to follow, or not at all has no correlation to their behavior within society.
See, I understand those problems, and I agree with everything, but that's not the way it's supposed to work. There aren't supposed to be certain men who tell you things that are never to be questioned. Ideally, everyone should know enough about their religion that when something like that happens they can call him on his bullshit. I agree that you don't need a God to tell right from wrong, I just think that the ability to do right as opposed to wrong comes from him. The fact that Christian and "religious" people commit just as many crimes as non-Christians, doesn't surprise me, especially in this country where calling yourself a Christian, regardless of your actions, is both accepted and not questioned.

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But they would argue they are the ones who truly follow Christ's word, right? This is common among Christians particularly who have conflicting ideas within Christianity. Wouldn't it make sense that all the different denominations of Christianity would all agree with eachother, and so would their followers?
I can call myself a vegetarian until I'm blue in the face. I can even come up with very convincing reasons to call myself a vegetarian. Even if I really believe that I am a vegetarian if I still eat meat on a regular basis with no intent to stop I am not a vegetarian. A lot of the different denominations do not disagree on the most important issues. There are a few weird ones out there but from what I've studied of them, (I will be the first to admit that my knowledge of other religions and the more fanatical factions within my own religion is very incomplete) they have some pretty distinct contradictions from both mainstream Christianity and what the bible says. I'm not saying that any particular one has it down perfectly, but I think that's to be expected since all humans are inherently imperfect.


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Do you feel this makes you give up on mankind on earth? That you will just worry about the next life and not put too much effort into this one to make it a better place?
No, quite the opposite in fact. I really believe that this world can, and one day will be a much better place. But for me not to do my part would be to disobey the one I claim to serve. I don't really think about what will happen to me after I die at all. That may be because I'm just a teenager and still have that "I'm never gonna die" mentality, but I don't think so. I'm honestly unconcerned about what will happen to me after death. I believe that whatever does happen with be the correct and just thing. That being said, I want other to feel the same way, not to have to worry about death in this life. To be able to use this life the way it should be used. To tell others about my Lord without having to worry about being successful or rich or famous or powerful. They simply do not concern me, and I believe that if the rest of the world felt that way there would be much less pain in it.


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The origin of life is a very well thought out theory, A-biogenisis. You're correct, it's just a theory, but the evidence supporting it, the experiments performed in labs, the ongoing research discovering new things all the time all support the theory. Scientists are on the verge of creating synthetic life in laboratory conditions using the exact same elements they believe to be around during the formation of the first cells on earth. There are a ton of things that have to be exactly right in order for life to emerge from non-life, but it is not impossible. I thought up this example one day sitting outside, I heard Sam Harris say something I'll probably never forget; Astronomically improbable things happen every day. So one day, when I was sitting in my chair outside, I saw a leaf drop onto my knee, do you know the odds of me being in that exact spot to have that exact leaf fall and land on my knee at that very moment in time? The tree spent years growing, then went through who knows how many different seasons, growing an uncountable number of leaves...then grew that leaf, grew the entire spring, entire summer, then fell when I just happened to be sitting in that very spot. Astronomically improbably things happen every day my friend.
I completely agree. I was merely stating the fact that I find it funny that people think that A-biogenisis is so much more plausible than an intelligent design.

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Evolution is just a theory, yes, but to say that it has quite a few very large holes in it is disingenuous. What holes? There is so much evidence to support the theory of evolution it is generally accepted as the furthest advance in biology we have to date, and the backbone of biology is formed on the theory of evolution. Medicine's are created to combat disease using the theory of evolution, knowing and showing exactly how mutations occur within cells. Even if the theory of evolution was proved wrong today, that doesn't mean any other theory (creationism) would be right.
I was mainly refering to the holes in the idea of macro-evolution. The theory that every living organism has a common ancestor. There are simply quite a few examples within the animal world that evolution has no explanation for. Mostly examples of symbiosis like the Boxer Crab which uses Anemones as weapons. I'm not claiming that evolution has by any means been disproved, I just find it odd that so many people are completely unwilling and actually aggressive about not listening to theories that come from a different perspective. I may be incorrect about that and it may entirely come from my own slanted experience, but it has none the less been my experience that scientist are just as unwilling to question evolution as you say that religious people are to question what their preacher says.

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It matters to the people asking the questions about our origins and our universes origins. It matters to a lot of people. Accepting the answer "God did it" is offensive to the human race. The origin of everything is the foundation of religion, without that question, there would be no religion.
I meant in relation to how a person should live his or her life it doesn't matter. I happen to think that God did create the world six thousand years ago. I am however, vastly uneducated in the area, and am completely willing to accept that that belief might be wrong, but either way, it wouldn't effect my daily life.

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There are some fundamental differences between the two. Lets take the man behind the podium for instance, without you there, without anyone there sitting in church listening to him speak, would he be there, speaking? Probably not right? The man clearly has motivation to keep you in that seat listening to him speak. Now lets take the other man, sitting behind the desk asking important questions about the universe, what's his motivation? His motivation is to learn new things, to discover without any bias, to look upon everything the universe has to offer and figure out the workings behind it all for your benifit, for my benifit, for nothing else. Doesn't it seem slightly ignorant to accept a 2,000 year old book as the way you should live your life today, with todays standards of society? Back when it was written none of these discoveries were ever even thought of, so the authors of the bible had no knowlege of the cosmos or DNA or how cigarette smoke affects your lungs, nothing, so of course none of it would be present within it, and the explination given is that all that stuff isn't real science, and science is evil, or science has some sort of agenda to erase God and religion from the world. This leads many believers not to accept scientific findings as true or even helpful to humanity.
True the person behind the podium does have reason to keep you in your seat, but if he is genuinely trying to preach the Word of God then he would go and find another place to speak. And let's assume that the man behind the desk didn't have anyone who listened to him. He would quickly loose funding and/or his job. He has the exact same reason to want to keep butts in those seats or eyes on his papers. I'm not saying that either is a universal case. There are preachers who are just in it for the money and there are scientists who just genuinely want to learn more about the world around them, but to assume that either is a universal is very disingenuous. I hate to say it but you are right in saying that believer have in the past rejected science because they though it was evil, and frankly that's idiotic. Science is neither good nor evil. It simply seeks to know more about the world around us. How that information is used can be put to good or evil uses, but since science really cannot disprove the existence of God then every jump in it's knowledge should be rejoiced not rejected. I believe that the truly faithful believer would want science done and our knowledge expanded as far as possible, because a truly faithful believer would understand that since science is the search for truth and God truly exists then from some perspective science can be the search for God. A true believer is okay with people questioning God, because just like two plus two will always equal four, God will always exist, and therefore I would be just as happen to allow someone to try to disprove God as I would be for someone to disprove that simple math equation.

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Where is the evidence?
I never claimed to have any.

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I can only speak for myself here, but I believe a 100% atheistic society would be much better for humanity. Look at the levels of national happiness with the percentage of the population of believers, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Amsterdam, much of Europe infact is atheist, and they rank the highest on people within the population who are happy. It makes sense really, if all the people realize they only have this one life to live, a lot fewer of them will go out and commit murder or crimes against other people because the idea of heaven or hell enforces those people that, who know's, they might be able to just repent or ask for forgiveness and still get into heaven down the line, even after they may have committed something incredibly terrible and recieved 20 years in prison, sure they're youth is gone, but if they're truly sorry for what they did, they'll still get into heaven. I know not every believer thinks like this, but a significant percentage would probably tell you that if they committed a terrible crime and were truly sorry for it afterwards, their God would still allow them into heaven... I believe atheism would lead to a more intelligent population, which in turn would lead to less violence, more economic growth, more stability, more freedoms and rights, more happiness among all.
I simply disagree. My experience with the world has been that people, who believe that there is nothing after this life will go straight for what they want in this life, and usually that is not a good thing. I agree that some people might think they can just get away with a terrible life with a quick "I'm sorry God," but I think that people seeing that there is no consequences beyond what's done to them in this life would have very little reason not to murder or rape or to rise to power and torture and destroy their population. The thing is that I don't believe that religion usually has that great an impact on peoples lives. I don't think that it's possible to convert an entire country much less the whole world to a certain religion, and even if we did most people would live the exact same way they do now. I doubt that a country that espoused atheism would be any more or less likely to bring freedom or happiness, because while some people would see that as the right thing to do, the type who want power would say that they have no reason to care what the people beneath them want or need.

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Zen Buddhism teaches many things, much like all the other religions out there. I guarantee you could find plenty of people within any religion who would tell you that their religion is the only one that teaches grace. Again, conflicting ideas within religion itself, every single one of them saying they are the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH" and you must follow them or burn in hell, with so many different religions, if I could quote Sam Harris again "you should automatically assume you're going to hell, just by the sheer odds"...
That may be true. But my experience with every other religion has been that you have to pick yourself up and do it. That it takes work to reach it and if you aren't good enough you won't make it and no one will shed a tear. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

I appreciate the lack of anger and disdain in your responses. It's a very nice change.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm not quite sure if I am one...I kind of believe in some higher power, I just think whomever it is doesn't like me.
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...I'm Christian. Not like "PRAISE JESUS!!" or "Have mercy on those who don't believe in the great masiah" Christian, but I do believe in God.
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I am an atheist insofar as I neither believe in God nor the impossibility of his existence. This is also applicable to my lack of belief (therefore, atheism) in the existence of the gods of other pantheons (Greek, Norse, Hindu, etc). In short, I have not seen sufficient evidence to believe in their existence.

What I will say, however, that the Christian god, if he does exist, does not exist in the form presented in the Bible. Omnipotence is itself a paradox, and paradoxes cannot exist in nature, only in concept. Furthermore, if the Christian god does exist, I would still see no reason to venerate him. A being that is omnipotent could create a paradise, but instead he gave us a world of war, pollution, natural disasters, and Avril Lavigne.

But enough with the moral reasons why I am averted to Christianity, let's progress onto the facts.

The fact of the matter is that evidence for other origins of the universe is mutually supportive. Meaning, for example, evidence for plate tectonics also supports absolute dating of the age of the Earth, which also supports dating the age of our oldest stars, which also supports our concept of the age of the universe, which also supports our knowledge of the basic rules of the universe, which also supports our evidence for plate tectonics. Science is like a Nautical star, with all points interconnected to form a clear picture. We may not have all the details, but as they get filled in we see less and less evidence for the "supernatural" element (God).

Does this conclusively deny the existence of God? Ask yourself, can you disprove the assertion that there is a teapot, too small for even our most sensitive instruments to detect, orbiting the Sun between Earth and Mars? The very notion of God, to me, is as inconsequential as the teapot, and therefore I deal very little with the notion of whether or not God exists, and rather with what is infinitely more fascinating: the Science that suggests otherwise. I would much rather discuss String Theory or electromagnetic spectroscopy than theology or religious philosophy. History and facts mean more to me than what is, essentially, their opposite and undoing: faith and belief.

And that is why I am an atheist.
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