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Old 10-18-2007, 12:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stumbled across this link, thought people would find it interesting.

here ya go
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That was awesome she made alot of good points.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ver ver true.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah you're right, that was pretty interesting.
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So, from what I am understanding, she just said "Boo fucking hoo", right?
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So, from what I am understanding, she just said "Boo fucking hoo", right?
how did you understand that?
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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So, from what I am understanding, she just said "Boo fucking hoo", right?

sounded like a legitimate rant to me...
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"I get angry when believers trumpet every good thing that's ever been done in the name of religion as a reason why religion is a force for good... and then, when confronted with the horrible evils done in religion's name, say that those evils weren't done because of religion, were done because of politics of greed or fear or whatever, would have been done anyway even without religion, and shouldn't be counted as religion's fault. (Of course, to be fair, I also get angry when atheists do the opposite: chalk up every evil thing done in the name of religion as a black mark on religion's record, but then insist that the good things were done for other reasons and would have been done anyway, etc. Neither side gets to have it both ways.)
I love her attitude in this.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm angry that atheist conventions have to have extra security, including hand-held metal detectors and bag searches, because of fatwas and death threats.

I'm angry that atheist soldiers -- in the U.S. armed forces -- have had prayer ceremonies pressured on them and atheist meetings broken up by Christian superior officers, in direct violation of the First Amendment. I'm angry that evangelical Christian groups are being given exclusive access to proselytize on military bases -- again in the U.S. armed forces, again in direct violation of the First Amendment.
I completely agree with her on this...

Especially on the whole "violation of the First Amendment". True..true..so true..
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I'm not even atheist and I think she makes a lot of good points.
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