Fake people.

NachtEngel · #1 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 04:37 PM

Does anyone else find them terribly annoying? It's normally easy for me to pick up when someones fake but sometimes people are good at. I think the most annoying thing is when you don't find out until later after already putting trust into a person. It's weird, someone can tell you how much they care about their friends and even act like a good one only to turn around and be horrible to you in the long run. Then there are people that try to be something they aren't whenever around you or others. There are all sorts of fake people and all of them can be annoying in there own way.

El Pirata · 03-03-2008, 05:06 PM

I have an extremely hard to getting really close to people, in fact I am only really close to like 2 or 3 people, only those 2 or 3 can I really call my best friends. I think it might have to do with what you say, a lot of people put on a public face and arent honest. Even over here where I am far away from my best friends I still cant manage to make very many friends or even acquaintances. Maybe I just dont like people, but a lot of people's attitudes frustrate me.

**Ginevra** · 03-03-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NachtEngel

It's weird, someone can tell you how much they care about their friends and even act like a good one only to turn around and be horrible to you in the long run. Then there are people that try to be something they aren't whenever around you or others. There are all sorts of fake people and all of them can be annoying in there own way.

For a person that says that they care about their friends but then are horrible to you I take it you mean someone who calls you their friend and then treats them badly? ANother thing similar to that is when people call you their friend when they really don't consider you one, or not what a friend should be.

However, what all constitutes being fake to you? If someone makes you mad but you know anger won't help, is it fake not to tell them you're angry?

Does it make me fake because I pretend that drive thru customers are right and I was wrong just because it's simpler? =P

Stossel · 03-03-2008, 07:31 PM

Yeah, that's what I was wondering...what is fake? What is real?

Where do you draw the line between personal issues and straight-out superficiality?

I know I can say that I have some personality traits that could be interpreted as "fake", but I know they're not, and some of my closest friends can attest to that.

03-03-2008, 07:35 PM

i think its more annoying when the person is fake right in front of your face. the entire time. where you just watch them melt from one person to another almost instantly.

but i am also mildly guilty of being fake myself.. as a bartender. soooo many people come in and act like they know me.. or that they're my friends.. && i smile give them a hug && say in my sweetest 'heyyy darling! how arrre youu?'
&& in all honestly.. i really dont even remember their names..

im a bad samma.

i think if someone turns out to be that fake... tell them that you think they're being shady. && that you're not going to deal with it anymore.

NachtEngel · 03-03-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginevra

For a person that says that they care about their friends but then are horrible to you I take it you mean someone who calls you their friend and then treats them badly? ANother thing similar to that is when people call you their friend when they really don't consider you one, or not what a friend should be.

However, what all constitutes being fake to you? If someone makes you mad but you know anger won't help, is it fake not to tell them you're angry?

Does it make me fake because I pretend that drive thru customers are right and I was wrong just because it's simpler? =P

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Originally Posted by Stossel

Yeah, that's what I was wondering...what is fake? What is real?

Where do you draw the line between personal issues and straight-out superficiality?

I know I can say that I have some personality traits that could be interpreted as "fake", but I know they're not, and some of my closest friends can attest to that.

I'm not talking about little things, that would be stupid. I mean when someone takes on completely different personalities or when they turn out to have tried to look so nice and wonderful but aren't in the long run. The ones that in the beginning masquerade as kind, loving, caring people that want to be true friends. Then they turn out to obviously just have been trying to hard because they feel the need to put on some act. They go from being someone you really care about and think cares about you to the complete opposite. The ones that are two-faced. One day they are standing up for you and the next stabbing you in the back for no reason.

tyrannosaurusjr · 03-03-2008, 08:14 PM

Can the term "insincere" be used, as opposed to "fake"? The latter reminds me oh so much of high school, and years before... But more to the point, I think a lot of the arguments made here are a bit too accusatory. Being insincere can just as easily be defensive as it can be offensive, especially in a situation in which someone is uncomfortable (and for a moment, lets got off the subject of how people act towards YOU, and consider,maybe, how you act towards THEM). And, if there is some kind of insincerity going on, I think an evaluation of it is necessary, as there does seem to be this divide between the offensive and defensive. If someone is being offensively insincere, then they obviously feel some kind of need to distance themselves from what you bring to the table, regardless of acquaintance. I think a lot of insults come under this distinction. But theres also a kind of protective insincerity, like not telling the whole story, that protects them from you're inquiries. Both can easily seem to be accosting in retrospection, but for the most part I don't think its some kind of habit that forms as distinct from one's own interaction with another. Insincerity can only happen in some kind of relationship, and like it or not, YOU are some part of that relationship, and so have a distinctly positive or negative influence over it.

NachtEngel · 03-03-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tyrannosaurusjr

Can the term "insincere" be used, as opposed to "fake"? The latter reminds me oh so much of high school, and years before... But more to the point, I think a lot of the arguments made here are a bit too accusatory. Being insincere can just as easily be defensive as it can be offensive, especially in a situation in which someone is uncomfortable (and for a moment, lets got off the subject of how people act towards YOU, and consider,maybe, how you act towards THEM). And, if there is some kind of insincerity going on, I think an evaluation of it is necessary, as there does seem to be this divide between the offensive and defensive. If someone is being offensively insincere, then they obviously feel some kind of need to distance themselves from what you bring to the table, regardless of acquaintance. I think a lot of insults come under this distinction. But theres also a kind of protective insincerity, like not telling the whole story, that protects them from you're inquiries. Both can easily seem to be accosting in retrospection, but for the most part I don't think its some kind of habit that forms as distinct from one's own interaction with another. Insincerity can only happen in some kind of relationship, and like it or not, YOU are some part of that relationship, and so have a distinctly positive or negative influence over it.

I don't really want to argue over semantics, it would be pointless. These don't even have to be people you consider friends anymore. Even acquaintances that have tried to act like it when you know they aren't. I am talking in general about anyone whom decides they need to constantly put on a false mask. Their truth to a point always comes out eventually. Yes, there are some things that are more than understandable to hide. Those are not the types of things I'm talking about. I am talking about anyone who pretends to be something else for what later just seems to have been a need for attention. People that seem to almost have no sense of self. It's almost impossible to even figure out who they really are because they have so many different faces.

**Ginevra** · 03-03-2008, 08:41 PM

So... sucky fake people suck? Are we supposed to debate, post specific instances? I'm trying to figure out how we're supposed to reply cause it seems we are failing it's intention.

NachtEngel · 03-03-2008, 08:44 PM

Ehh, I guess I was just trying to get a conversation going because I'm bored. Apparently I failed and just looked like I was having some kind of random bitch fit. This really wasn't even inspired by anyone...

It was just random.

Sorry for making another pointless failure of a topic.