So for me when I think about something it usually goes through a couple stages, the thought starts with an intention, what am I trying to accomplish with this thought, then comes motivation, what will I gain from thinking this?, after that there's a decision to make, usually this is subconcious and within miliseconds of the beginning of the thought, then I reep the rewards of accept the consequences or what that particular thought earned me.

So now I ask, how do animals', and in particular insects', thought process function? Do they think about everything the do, or do they just do it without what you and I would consider 'thinking', are they on the same level of though process as we are, do they consider the possible outcomes of each action they take or do they take actions without considering outcomes and hope what they chose is best?

I was watching this bee today flying around and I saw him fly into a plastic bag to get to the sugar of some soft drinks inside, and I noticed he couldn't get back out again, he flew in through this little hole and couldn't navigate good enough to fly back out, so I assume that was the end of that bee, I stuck around a good 15 minutes to see if he emerged... but to no avail, I guess he met his fate. So that little interaction made me ask this question, do you think the bee flew into the bag thinking in some unknown bee terms "shit I'ma go get this sugar then fly the fuck back out as quick as I came in no problem!" or do you think he just smelled (if bee's even 'smell' that is...) the sugar and his instincts took over and he flew into the bag without even considering how he was going to get out?

hmm...

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Well, when I said "why" I was kind of thinking in a philosophical way...also, I didn't think about cats, lol. I'm a dog person!

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Ha. Either way, it's not philosophical to us, but for an animal's brain capacity, trying to string cause and effect together could be a very taxing ordeal, hence why pavlovian training works, because the survival instincts kick in over top of their ability to reason and connect two events.

Humans asking why to things like life, the universe, and everything is because we can't see how they are connected to each other, perhaps because we are incapable.

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Here's a little food for thought. My brother had two hunting dogs (Jojo and Belle) he used to catch boars, and he lives down near a river. On hot days, they'd go swimming to cool off, though Jojo doesn't swim very well so Belle would have to be the one to force her to swim. Well, a few days ago an 11-foot alligator caught and devoured Belle...and now Jojo seems to have lost most of her energy as well as seemingly having nightmares. My father's told me that she will yowl throughout the night every now and then.

Not really sure where I was going with that story, but just thought it might be a little insight into animals' thoughts and feelings.

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Animals have proven time and time again that they are able to associate stimuli and objects. Pavlov's dogs were trained to salivate at the ring of a bell because they had usually been presented with steak when the bell rang... my cat knows to come to me if she has run out of food, because she knows that I give it to her. Animals have a rudimentary ability to plan ahead. Bears accumulate food before hibernating, birds fly South for the winter, my cat will steadily eat less and less per serving the lower the amount of food in her dish gets (for some reason she thinks it's all she's getting, though she eventually comes to me if I forget to replenish her supply).

Koko the gorilla supposedly learned sign language. I'm not talking about learning simple signs and communicating in basic closed-language form, I'm talking about grasping open-language conversation (such as coming up with a term for ring after never seeing one before ("finger necklace")).

Can they form sophisticated concepts like we can? I doubt it, but they get by on a little more than just instinct.

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