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Old 02-22-2008, 10:14 PM
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Religion rant on retarded stuff.

I was sitting at the table and my parents were talking about how some school they might have my son go to has you sign a paper saying you and your family are born again Christians. Then my mom was saying shes not "born again" and she hates to lie but people just do it. Then my lttle rant began so I am going to give it to all of you. I told her that a "born again" in my opinion automatically has to be an evangelical. So she trys to say how thats not true. Then I go on about how they have to believe in the whole bible. It even says in the bible that you can't take anything out of it. After that I got started on how I hate when people call themselves Christians but are not. A real Christian would be killing people for not converting, or not being a virgin on their wedding day. Then I told her I didn't want to hear the age old excuse "but thats old testament". I don't fucking care where in the Bible it is. It's in there so it's considered divinely inspired. If you are going to claim to be a born again Christian then don't take shit out of it and grow some balls. Start fucking killing people.

Do it.

I dare you.
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lol right, I think the only people living the way the bible tells them to actually live is all those crazy bastards from Westboro Baptist...lmao.
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lol right, I think the only people living the way the bible tells them to actually live is all those crazy bastards from Westboro Baptist...lmao.
Not even they do.

They still have not gotten the guts to start killing people.

I should stand outside their church with signs quoting parts that tell you to kill. Then at the bottom in big letters have "When are you going to start the killing you fakes!"

Note: I only have a problem with people that claim they believe in the whole bible and are born again. I don't care if people believe in parts of it but I don't even consider those type of people Christians. I don't have a problem with any religion unless it instructs its followers to kill people over stupid things.
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I was sitting at the table and my parents were talking about how some school they might have my son go to has you sign a paper saying you and your family are born again Christians. Then my mom was saying shes not "born again" and she hates to lie but people just do it. Then my lttle rant began so I am going to give it to all of you. I told her that a "born again" in my opinion automatically has to be an evangelical. So she trys to say how thats not true. Then I go on about how they have to believe in the whole bible. It even says in the bible that you can't take anything out of it. After that I got started on how I hate when people call themselves Christians but are not. A real Christian would be killing people for not converting, or not being a virgin on their wedding day. Then I told her I didn't want to hear the age old excuse "but thats old testament". I don't fucking care where in the Bible it is. It's in there so it's considered divinely inspired. If you are going to claim to be a born again Christian then don't take shit out of it and grow some balls. Start fucking killing people.

Do it.

I dare you.
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Not even they do.

They still have not gotten the guts to start killing people.

I should stand outside their church with signs quoting parts that tell you to kill. Then at the bottom in big letters have "When are you going to start the killing you fakes!"

Note: I only have a problem with people that claim they believe in the while bible and are born again. I don't care if people believe in parts of it but I don't even consider those type of people Christians. I don't have a problem with any religion unless it instructs its followers to kill people over stupid things.
Maybe you should start asking "when are you going to start killing you FAGS." Or "God hates pussies more than fags" or something like that.

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Note: I only have a problem with people that claim they believe in the whole bible and are born again. I don't care if people believe in parts of it but I don't even consider those type of people Christians. I don't have a problem with any religion unless it instructs its followers to kill people over stupid things.
The Bible is also a time line. Over the course of this time line God makes multiple covenants or promises with various people. In the New Testament Christ forms a new covenant between God and man, meaning we don't have to obey all those ancient, inhumane rules that would force us to kill other people or send anybody who's uncircumcised or who has eaten unclean meat to hell.

I'm not a Christian and don't really believe in God, but I think this is pretty obvious. And if they choose to ignore the parts that would have them killing people, isn't that better? Who cares if they don't actually obey the whole Bible, verbatim, the last thing we need is more religious extremists.
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what about people of other religions who dont follow their religion to the T? you got a problem with them too or are you just picking on christians? im sure that if most people even knew everything their religious text said, considering that most don't, that there would be parts that they didnt agree with and it's stupid to expect millions of people to believe exactly the same thing.
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The Bible is also a time line. Over the course of this time line God makes multiple covenants or promises with various people. In the New Testament Christ forms a new covenant between God and man, meaning we don't have to obey all those ancient, inhumane rules that would force us to kill other people or send anybody who's uncircumcised or who has eaten unclean meat to hell.

I'm not a Christian and don't really believe in God, but I think this is pretty obvious. And if they choose to ignore the parts that would have them killing people, isn't that better? Who cares if they don't actually obey the whole Bible, verbatim, the last thing we need is more religious extremists.
That's one interpretation. Depending on what "I did not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it" means to you, it can mean various things. They also don't mind using the old testament to demonize homosexuals, so it's hypocritical in my opinion, and I think that's what Nacht was getting at.

I was raised Christian, and I still believe in something that you could call God, but that's not a very good word for it imho. Too much baggage with it and not enough specificity. Anyway, the hypocrisy is much deeper rooted in the theology and philosophy of the mainstream church doctrine and dogma (regardless of specific sect or denomination). Nacht just chose to illustrate it in a rather sardonic and ironic way.
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The Bible is also a time line. Over the course of this time line God makes multiple covenants or promises with various people. In the New Testament Christ forms a new covenant between God and man, meaning we don't have to obey all those ancient, inhumane rules that would force us to kill other people or send anybody who's uncircumcised or who has eaten unclean meat to hell.

I'm not a Christian and don't really believe in God, but I think this is pretty obvious. And if they choose to ignore the parts that would have them killing people, isn't that better? Who cares if they don't actually obey the whole Bible, verbatim, the last thing we need is more religious extremists.
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what about people of other religions who dont follow their religion to the T? you got a problem with them too or are you just picking on christians? im sure that if most people even knew everything their religious text said, considering that most don't, that there would be parts that they didnt agree with and it's stupid to expect millions of people to believe exactly the same thing.
Again, my problem is with people that claim to believe in "every sing word of the Bible." Read over the things I said again and maybe you will understand my point. No, it wouldn't be better if they were killing people. If they aren't killing people though then they do not believe in the entire Bible. If you don't believe in the entire bible then don't claim to be fucking "Born again" and believe every word of the book. It just makes you look ignorant. Especially don't even think about judging me after saying you believe every word of that book. You just told me that you want to murder me because I don't see the world as you do simply by saying those words. To me, someone saying they believe in that entire book makes them want to kill me and other people that I see as innocent. This goes with a number of the religions that started in the middle east. If you believe every word of it then in my opinion you are a sick murderer and you also put women below men.
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Umm, where again in the bible does it tell you to kill people?

You are confusing the word "Christian" with extreme "psycho paths..."

Very different words if you are into, you know, "definitions..."


Have you ever read the bible?
Have you ever personally met a Christian who killed someone?

I guess with your philosophy we should call all Muslims terrorists and wipe them off the earth...

And those damn Jews, don't they read the bible? They must be venomous killers too..



Stop buying into generalizations, and labeling an enormous group of people by the failings of minorities...


Blah, I apologize, i'm in a angry/sarcastic mood, but I haven't been on beastoast in while and there is the same spam of biased ignorant bull-shit everywhere i go..
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This was posted before by Noz but I didn't feel like looking up everything again on my own. Here are a few things but there are even more if you look. I have looked up everything in here to make sure it is accurate.

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22:18

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

“When you begin living in the towns the Lord your God is giving you, you may hear that scoundrels among you are leading their fellow citizens astray by saying, ‘Let us go worship other gods’—gods you have not known before. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find that the report is true and such a detestable act has been committed among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the open square and burn it. Burn the entire town as a burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a large nation, just as he swore to your ancestors.(Deuteronomy 13:12-19 NLT)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)


One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)


So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)


The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest.(Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
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