Reality of the Mind

**SARS-expl0ted** · 02-13-2007, 10:54 AM

"Two objects cannot exist in the same place at the same time."

I saw that Rist had said this in another thread. It made me think.
Have any of you ever thought about this statement?

As in, it might mean...more than just objects.
What about people? Maybe I am the only one who really exists.
Then again, what is existing exactly?

02-13-2007, 11:32 AM

thats really deep... i've been thinking about it...

considering people technicaly are objects...

and we have reached the cognitive base to recognize that there is something else out there...

we exhist, with others who exhist.

which is why murder, ect is wrong... ur impeding ones right to exhist.

**SARS-expl0ted** · 02-13-2007, 12:07 PM

...but only if you do them, right?

HI - RO · 02-13-2007, 12:17 PM

this is a good question to think when your high lol
this is some deep shit lol

**SARS-expl0ted** · 02-13-2007, 12:22 PM

Well, I am sober right now...

Zen · 02-13-2007, 01:19 PM

""Two objects cannot exist in the same place at the same time.

As in, it might mean...more than just objects.
What about people? Maybe I am the only one who really exists.
Then again, what is existing exactly?""

I would say we are all existing in our own existences
But that the reason two objects can not exist in the same place is that they have no defined place to begin with…
That’s where time and space collide into one
Where I believe we are all in the same place…
And the statement in question falls apart
Time ends space ends division

**Brother of Yeshua** · 02-13-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen

""Two objects cannot exist in the same place at the same time.

As in, it might mean...more than just objects.
What about people? Maybe I am the only one who really exists.
Then again, what is existing exactly?""

I would say we are all existing in our own existences
But that the reason two objects can not exist in the same place is that they have no defined place to begin with…
That’s where time and space collide into one
Where I believe we are all in the same place…
And the statement in question falls apart
Time ends space ends division

This is how I view this matter as well.

Physicality breaks down at some level and ceases to be a true reality.

It's a superficial question in the first place.

**Ristaron** · 02-13-2007, 02:05 PM

I quoted that from the Laws of Physics, which regards anything material (physical) as an object.
Thus, you cannot exist in the same place at the same time as a moving train.
Not even by being in a parallel dimension, because then you're not in the same place... or perhaps even the same time.

Even in the scientific case of humans being able to pass through solid matter (see illusionist Criss Angel), the basic principle remains -- as the molecules of the human body part and squeeze together in order for them to go around the molecules of the solid object... and a bit of the other way around... and therefore are not in the same place at the same time.

Now, if one is to look at it from a purely philosophical standpoint, one could argue a number of things:
-What is existence?
-Do I/the object really exist?
-What is time?
-What is place?

In any event, there is no real answer for a philosophical exploration of those points... else philosophy wouldn't have so many branches (metaphysics, deconstructionism, realism, et cetera).
But, they're fun to debate, so please continue.

Zen · 02-13-2007, 02:15 PM

In any event, there is no real answer for a philosophical exploration of those points...

Right, there is no answer but that there is no answer...

**Ristaron** · 02-13-2007, 02:30 PM

Not in the philosophical sense, at least.

But nice try.