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Old 12-17-2007, 08:38 AM
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I can't count the number of times I've heard the maxim, "there is but a thin line between love and hate." Persoanlly, I contend that this couldn't be further from the truth and that there is in fact a large gulf between the two. However, I'm interested, what do you guys think? In what ways is this true or is it entirely devoid of any real meaning?
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Relationship-wise, I think when when you love someone deeply and they spurn your affections, break your heart, etc. you pour all of that energy into the exact opposite feeling, and this change can become almost instantaneous, so that's where the saying probably came from. Hell, look at the first quote in my sig, and you'll know exactly how I feel about love.

But, like, parents loving their kids, that's different, since they (are suppose to) love them unconditionally, no matter what the child does.

All in all, I think it boils down to what context you use that phrase in.
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I think this is all situation based. In my current love life situation, the line has increasingly moved closer: I hate to love her, but I love her to death. And the reason that line keeps moving closer is because I keep thinking about her despite the fact I know she is not worth the agony. To me, this type of situation is best suited for that line.

It could also be taken by the fact that people's emotions are very easily swayed. The line is so close together because people's emotions can change in either direction any day. Have you ever just felt neutral about something? Sure, you have. But the neutral feeling is very rare. Often times, your opinions and personality WILL sway you one direction or the other and it'll never remain neutral.
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I can't count the number of times I've heard the maxim, "there is but a thin line between love and hate." Persoanlly, I contend that this couldn't be further from the truth and that there is in fact a large gulf between the two. However, I'm interested, what do you guys think? In what ways is this true or is it entirely devoid of any real meaning?
Did you get this from Donnie Darko?

I think there are way more things that are just as important as love and hate and I know there is a huge gap between the two. It takes many different things to get to love and to get to hate.
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Love and Hate are spectrums. They are not two singular emotions.

I love my wife. I love my cat. I love my guitar. I love a good book. I love my new big screen TV (merry xmas to me!). None of those loves are the same.

I hate stubbing my toe. I hate inequality and prejudice. I hate the smell of rotten food. Again, none of these hates are the same.

While the universal idea through my different loves holds, appreciation and/or adoration, I do not feel the same about my wife as I do my TV. While hate carries the trend of disdain, I don't equate stubbing my toe with the corruption of modern society.

These spectrums do meet, and as Jew Blaster said, it takes many different things to get to each.

I would argue as well that love and hate in regards to other living things (people/animals/nature) has more to do with how you feel about yourself than anything.
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In terms of the spectrum, there's a gaping chasm between the two.
In terms of relationships, it's the exact same. Only people interpret being fed up with the antics of someone they admire as temporarily hating them.
I'm more fascinated with the paradoxes "love to hate" and "hate to love". Now THERE'S someone with whom I would have a very interesting conversation.
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Relationship-wise, I think when when you love someone deeply and they spurn your affections, break your heart, etc. you pour all of that energy into the exact opposite feeling, and this change can become almost instantaneous, so that's where the saying probably came from. Hell, look at the first quote in my sig, and you'll know exactly how I feel about love.

But, like, parents loving their kids, that's different, since they (are suppose to) love them unconditionally, no matter what the child does.

All in all, I think it boils down to what context you use that phrase in.
I agree, love can turn into hatred in the blink of an eye.

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In terms of the spectrum, there's a gaping chasm between the two.
In terms of relationships, it's the exact same. Only people interpret being fed up with the antics of someone they admire as temporarily hating them.
I'm more fascinated with the paradoxes "love to hate" and "hate to love". Now THERE'S someone with whom I would have a very interesting conversation.
If someone hates to love than would you consider it possible to hate someone because you love them?
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Hate is very strong word to say.
It is indeed a hash word really but
love take courge you have to provide not say it
you have to mean it really hate you can have that feel really. I chosse love but am a mean person to
some people oh well it just me so deal with it
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If someone hates to love than would you consider it possible to hate someone because you love them?
If that was the case, the person would hate the emotions they have for that person, and any negative feelings toward the person themselves would be a result of that. But that's hardly a thin line between two ends of a spectrum (hate--dislike--indifferent--like--love)...
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If that was the case, the person would hate the emotions they have for that person, and any negative feelings toward the person themselves would be a result of that. But that's hardly a thin line between two ends of a spectrum (hate--dislike--indifferent--like--love)...
Interesting, I only ask because I thought I felt that way before. I didn't want to love the person so one minute I would be really mean and angry with them and the next I would be apologizing and loving. It was really confusing.
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