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02-13-2008, 01:04 AM
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So I just wrote this down now, after about 4 vegan white russians with 40% APV kahlua substitute: Taken from means objective to necessary, our ideas presuppose that which is true, but of tangible function. What, why, and how we see our lives unfold before our eyes, is like the telling of a story; at once our grasp of it is true, but from a sense derived from others; its reality remains an anomaly. From where does this discrepancy arise? Is it our ideas, so representative of the world around us, but so idealistic? Or is it our intention with the external message itself, so tempered but true?
Perhaps, then, as these ideas both resound so true within the Intellect, it is that we've nothing but terms, signs as they exist. To put onto concepts learned but none-the-less temporal; That conception, as it remains subjectiveis nothing more than what we individualistically know?
Where is the differentiation between selves? Why is relativistic thought so under rated?
As far as I, Matthew, am concerned, there is nothing outside of what I know; As far as I am concerned, this life of mine is strictly associated, necessarily, with all influence around me.
My life is necessarily described by my interaction and analysis of others; I am nothing without this reference.
Individuality is then something of a misnomer: it describes nothing more than your interaction with others: it is in effect the complete and absolute documentation of everything ASIDE from oneself
Individuality itself is, then, a product of the masses; for without the notion of the plurality, there can not be any concept of the self.
We exist, then, in the collective plurality of thoughts (something indicative of the plurality of selves) and not necessarily that idea which is congruent with the universal unconscious, but most definitely that of history.
One gives rise to another, via their actions.
This, in turn, gives rise to further actions, as are made apparent, necessary though, through, first and foremost, sense judgment.
Now this judgment itself is a carefully wrought being, for it presupposes so many careful interactions, be they personal or interpersonal, that judgment itself as a term , becomes universal; the set of judgment can be put on anything, but it is a specific value that it transcends the realm of the genuine to become the specific.
This specifically , however, retains the problems that were originally associated with general judgment via a tautology: anything comprised of something is made of constituent parts, and so the question arises, what are these constituent parts made of?
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02-13-2008, 04:42 PM
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A painter paints pictures on canvas. But musicians paint their pictures on silence. ~Leopold Stokowski
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Originally Posted by everyone's favo, Twizt3d, K@0t!C_AdVeŽs@rY, red_ginger_kisses, ChaosXIII, Ristaron, kingdomforakiss, and El Subestimado
Chase is God...chase you are god... chase is GOD ...Chase you ARE GOD!...CHASE IS GOD...And this is why Chase is God...oh man you are a GOD Chase!..Chase, you are God.
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I'm Girl's baaaaabyyyyyy.
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Chase is the butt sex machine 
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"Death will have to take me sleeping, for if I'm awake there will be a fight."
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02-13-2008, 05:12 PM
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04-04-2008, 09:15 PM
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I was happy 'til i read this...
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04-04-2008, 10:48 PM
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He's talking about dualities, the nature of paradoxes.
You cannot experience the idea of self without also the idea of selflessness.
The group defines individual existence. I am not myself if there is no one else to differentiate between.
If I am the only of my kind, the idea of self is meaningless, because I'm all there is.
If there are others like me, then I need identity.
But identity is also a function of consciousness. Without consciousness, identity and individuality need not exist.
So then the question becomes what is consciousness? What is a thought?
I'm not really trying to provide any answers, just try and explain the same general idea in a different way.
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"The quiet voice of peace is rarely heard over the din of the crowd."
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04-05-2008, 06:28 AM
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If only I thought like this while...uninhibited.
No, I just think about Hannah. Good enough for me.
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04-05-2008, 01:50 PM
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Yes thank you Patty, I was looking for that thread but I could not remember the name of it.
That's exactly what T-Rex was trying to say I think, or at least the issue he was trying to talk about.
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"Science without Religion is lame. Religion without Science is blind."
-Albert Einstein
"There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."
-Max Planck
"The quiet voice of peace is rarely heard over the din of the crowd."
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04-06-2008, 05:25 PM
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For some odd reason earlier I was thinking about what dress I wanted to get for Prom and then I couldn't figure out why my butt was vibrating...I later realized I was sitting on my phone.
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04-06-2008, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by shesgotnothingtosay
For some odd reason earlier I was thinking about what dress I wanted to get for Prom and then I couldn't figure out why my butt was vibrating...I later realized I was sitting on my phone.
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Wow, your username is so appropriate.
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"Science without Religion is lame. Religion without Science is blind."
-Albert Einstein
"There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."
-Max Planck
"The quiet voice of peace is rarely heard over the din of the crowd."
-Unknown-
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