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Originally Posted by Static
It's really simple to me. I feel a little wierd using the word 'patriot' because it seems to have lost it's meaning in these times. What one person might think it means, may be completely different from another (just like Christianity...but that's another thread)... So here's my take...
The Constitution is not just a piece of paper, I believe it's one of the greatest documents ever created. It lays out a system that is arguably the best human history has seen. This document provides each one of us with essential freedoms we need to live happy lives. I couldn't care less who the fuck is in the white house or who the fuck writes the laws, this document supercedes them all unless amendments are passed and the idea that someone would defend this document with their life is the greatest example of 'patriotism' I can think of.
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I posted this here because After I typed out this response, I realized it fit more in this forum.
Even the Constitution is lacking, as it allowed for us to get to this point. While Constitutionally, many things over the last 230 some years (you didn't think corruption of the Constitution was new did you?) are illegitimate, they have been made legal through legal loopholes.
While I agree with your view of the Constitution, it's still imperfect in practice.
So now we're left with a few questions.
1. Is it possible to even have a perfect system of governance?
2. If it is, can people abide by it without fucking it up?
3. Is something simply lacking from the Constitutional system of checks and balances? Or is the Constitution itself too bogged down in bureaucratic nonsense? Is the answer to "Simplify, simplify?"
Now, perfect can be taken as utopian world where there is no harm (doubtful, but possible) or in a more plausible sense, a system where bad things will still happen, but when they do, those responsible will pay a reasonable consequence.
Is it ever possible to have a completely just government?
Great example at the top, or in even broader terms, defining patriotism is a lot like defining God, and whether or not said God exists. It's so much based on individual outlook that it's kind of tough to get a universal answer on the subject.