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Originally Posted by rightwinger
You calling them illegal, doesn't make them illegal.
The term you are looking for is "warrant-less" wire taps. Because they didn't go to a FISA court, but to my knowledge it is legal for the AG to bypass the FISA court.
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Here's a news-flash, my friend. Warrant-less wire-taps ARE illegal. It's called SPYING. The whole reason you have warrants is so that it becomes legal! That's also why warrants require the case to present factual, compelling evidence to support the suspicion that would make a warrant possible. The
fact of the matter is that Bush
spied on (and will continue to
spy on) the people of the United States. The Fourth Amendment was
violated. The fact that you refuse to accept the plain and simple truth of that is staggering.
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Originally Posted by rightwinger
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The 'exception' to the law that this article discusses is only one case (Katz vs. The United States). There are thousands of other cases of which the White House is not exempt of the blame.
I won't even get into how unconstitutional the entire government has become, but sufficient to say laws like this already break the President's vow to uphold the Constitution. He should have been thrown out of office long before he could ever implement them.
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Originally Posted by rightwinger
That's not the issue.
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MY FUCKING ASS IT'S NOT THE ISSUE! The president is there to protect and defend the people, not erode their liberties and impose unconstitutional laws on them!
Not only has Bush FAILED to live up to his requirements as a president, he's also FAILED to serve the Constitution. He invaded Afghanistan and Iraq without a formal declaration of war, which is AGAINST the Constitution (source is my punch in your face if you argue this point because it's fucking plain as day written in YOUR bloody Constitution which you should know better than I do anyways!). He has signed bills that blatantly defy the Constitution (including suspending
habeas corpus (Hamdi vs. Rumsfeld) and the Homeland Security Act). He has set up "Free Speech Zones" in direct violation of the First Amendment. He has refused to submit for an audit, claiming that the White House is neither part of the Legislative nor Executive branches. He has deliberately misled the U.S. public, causing irreversible harm to the country (more U.S. citizens have died fighting overseas than who died during the Sept. 11 incident!).
And as if all of that wasn't enough, he is still trying to get MORE dictator powers to himself.
LINK.
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Originally Posted by rightwinger
Lying about information, actually isn't illegal, unless you are under oath. And I don't think one could make a strong case for Bush lying.
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Lying to the people of the United States violates the oath Bush took at his inauguration. His Constitutional duty, which he swore to uphold, is to protect and defend the people. Telling them lies does the exact opposite.