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Ok, howbout the 'they discovered CLEAR evidence of torture" part?
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Did you read how they tested them? They did a psychological examination, and an interview. That's what they based most of their findings on.
And. Since a majority of them were from Abu-Ghraib......we know what happened at Abu-Ghraib.
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Will you acknowlege that the US has, did, and most likely does torture people abroad?
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At Abu-Ghraib we know what happened, but overall no. I wouldn't acknowledge that at.
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Again, we are not talking about where the order wasn't applicable, in this case I was talking about the Gitmo detainees. If you think that is legal, you are an idiot.
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I never said torture was legal.
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Now, will you acknowlege that the order to torture people in American prisons abroad came from the white house?
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Your pattern is to state what you believe, and then pass it off as fact.
No. I will not acknowledge that the order came from the White House, because I don't even know if there was an order, and I don't even know if torture takes place.
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You're right, illegal wiretaps aren't war crimes, but you are definitely wrong in them being not illegal, hell the word is in the name, i l l e g a l wiretaps
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You calling them illegal, doesn't make them illegal.
The term you are looking for is "warrant-less" wire taps. Because they didn't go to a FISA court, but to my knowledge it is legal for the AG to bypass the FISA court.
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Show me the law that says the AG can bypass the FISA courts
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Harvard Political Review - Bush's Wiretapping: Legal and Necessary
I had the actual law up, when I made the comment. But, I couldn't find the link again. I'll try and find the specific law, that one person based their argument on.
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spy on them without anyone else knowing about it, yeah, how would that help protect American lives?
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That's not the issue.
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October 1st, 2002 Bush recieved intel from the CIA stating Sadaam IS CLEARLY NOT an immediate threat to the US
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Can you link me to the story on that piece of intel.
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That leaves us with two options both of which Bush gets quite a lengthy prison sentence... So which is it?
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1) There aren't 2 options.
2) That would not get Bush a lengthy prison sentence. Your assumptions are not facts.
I'd propose option d) Bush went with the larger, more likely intelligence information that said that Hussein had WMDs. Numerous different countries intelligence agencies believed this, as did Hussein's generals.
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How is conducting illegal wiretaps, lying about important information when it has such huge consequences, and torturing prisoners held in American custody, not illegal?
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Illegal wiretaps would be illegal. But, the "warrantless" wiretaps seem to have a legal basis.
Torturing prisoners would be illegal.
Lying about information, actually isn't illegal, unless you are under oath. And I don't think one could make a strong case for Bush lying.
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Check, check, check... I know what I'm talking about. Learn the laws.
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You didn't post the legal definition of treason. You posted the dictionary definition of treason. Again. You don't know what you are talking about.
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."