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Originally Posted by rightwinger
I dislike the precedence of government having that much power.
"A government with enough power to give you everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have."
Not sure if I got the quote 100%, but that's Thomas Jefferson if I remember correctly.
I don't want people to be taken care of by the government.
We are a legitimately great nation. We ARE the top country in foreign aid, in economic aid. We are the largest exporter of food. We basically fund the entire UN. Most UN endeavors are led by the United States in some capacity. Whenever disaster hits another country, the United States is usually #1 in amount of aid sent.
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I'm not saying the government would run it. It would have to be privately owned and operated, but funded by the government. Something along those lines. Like we make the government pay the companies to let us use their hospitals. I don't even care this thread wasn't about that. It was one half assed example. My point is there is wisdom in both sides, we need the opposing ends to find a balance between the extremes.
Well then ask the government to stop maintaining your water lines, sewage lines, power lines, streets and roads, among other things. We need some level of government involvement. I'd love a libertarian utopia but it's not gonna happen now, if ever. We ain't ready for it.
Since when does the UN actually help anyone. You say you're a conservative (or classic liberal or whatever conservatives call themselves now to separate from the neo-cons) yet you hold up these handouts and misappropriation of OUR MONEY as examples of help? We've caused more problems with our meddling than we could ever hope to solve without it! Talk with nations, trade with nations, help give them incentive to build a functioning society, but don't just throw money and food at them and say "there we helped." Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish, and you're out of a job, which is what our government hates the thought of. Infrastructure is taking precedence over personal-responsibility.
Not to mention the tired bit about us sending 3 times as much aid to the arab nations trying to kill Israel than we do sending to Israel to fight off all the other countries we're giving money to. WTF mate?
Not to mention that one of our top exports are guns. Guess who's buying them? Guess who's using them to shoot our troops overseas?
So I mean if you think that's helping, ok. Frankly though, it makes me wonder when you say "I don't want the government to take care of me" but then brag about how much stuff we give away to people frivolously, and as if the UN is somehow better than our own bureaucracy here at home.