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Old 09-21-2007, 11:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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In that last linked video... you can CLEARLY see the female officer on the left talking to him as she attempts to escort him outside after his microphone was cut (she also asked him to get to the question while he was going on about the book and you can see his response is an "I'll get to it when I get to it" attitude even defending that attitude by stating Kerry was speaking for several hours, he should be able to take as much time as he wants to get to his question). It also sounded like she said "We're not." when he started asking "Why are you arresting me?", but that could just be what I made out. It's hard to tell since she's not speaking loudly while he is...

Another thing I could see in the above video is he was fighting attempts to handcuff his hands behind his back while begging not to be tazed. They police had gotten the cuff on his right wrist, but he was still struggling with his left arm until they tazed him. DESPITE his begging not to be tazed, he was still resisting until they did just that. From this angle, that gives MORE justification for the tazing that the previous videos have. As for whether they were justified in wrestling him to the ground and arresting him in the first place, I feel his own actions brought that on as you could plainly see they were seeking to escort him outside and WERE speaking with him but he remained resistant.

As to why he was being taken out, I still do not believe his final question had ANYTHING to do with it. From the previous videos, you can see the cop near the stage (who was close to the dean as well as Kerry), speaking into his walkie after the second question was asked. Whether it was the fact he said "blowjob" that provoked the dean to ask the mic to be cut and him to be removed or the fact he was taking so much time getting around to his questions and then saying "I have two MORE questions as well" and proceeding to ask them without waiting for an answer for the first one (which could give the impression, he didn't care about the answers as much as getting the questions out there for others to think about) caused the call to be made, I do not know. The fact still remains that MULTIPLE eyewitnesses have stated he interrupted ANOTHER speaker and rushed to the microphone demanding to be allowed to ask his questions in the first place... where the tape cuts in is AFTER Kerry told the officers NOT to escort him out for that and to allow him to ask his question IF he would let Kerry answer the question that had been interrupted. The video starts after Kerry goes BACK to the other speaker who was interrupted and finishes up that person's question.

Exactly WHICH Constitutional Right of his was stepped upon here? The Right to Free Speech doesn't allow a person to yell "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater... nor does it allow a person to come in off the street during a Presidential Press Conference and blurt out questions at the President out of order without being escorted out... so why should it allow him to interrupt the normal proceedings of a Q&A with John Kerry and then ask more than one question (without waiting for answers on the first two)?

EDIT: Also, Resisting Arrest is just that - Resisting. No matter HOW violently, whether by trying to break free or simply through complete lack of cooperation making your body basically dead weight the police have to drag around - it's still resisting arrest. If he had so much as PUSHED an officer (instead of merely making them off-balance by pulling away or bumping into them), he would have been charged with Assaulting a Police Officer - a much more aggravated offense.
There were how many of them and one of him? There was no fucking need to tazer him.
Ms. Cops-are-perfect-human-beings said that if some old lady had tazed him nobody would scream injustice, but that's because it's ONE old lady and one ecstatic young man.
They had him outnumbered many many times over, what they did was absolutely unnecessary AND unconstitutional (cutting his freedom of speech and then arresting him without telling him the charge).
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