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Originally Posted by whitney_03
He has no constitutional right to assault officers by shoving and pushing them.
Which constitutional right are you referring to? Does John Kerry not have a constitutional right to speak as well? Because I'm pretty sure with this man's erratic behaviors and demeanor there was no way Kerry was getting in a word edgewise. So it's okay for the guy to speak but not for John Kerry? So the fuck what if Kerry is in skulls and bones? Do you have any idea how many people are/have been members of that organization? It's just like any other fucking frat, why not harass people who are in the Free Masons? They're a 'secret society' too. What does that have to do with police action? Do the police only protect skulls and bones members? lol whatever man. If you don't know that people like this guy ask probing questions to draw attention to themselves then you are insurmountably naive. Not because they want to know but because they think they're doing the public a favor. I am a member of the public and I could care less if Kerry was in skull and bones, glee club or whatever else while he was in college.
I think it is fine for people to have consequences for their actions. I think that when the founding fathers established this country they would have thought this situation was ridiculous too. This is like people who smoke pot bitching when they get caught and thrown in because they have the right to smoke whatever they want. If you're breaking the law expect the consequences, grow the fuck up. If you're going to act like an irresponsible moron and make what I would deem as a mockery of the 1st amendment, then maybe you need someone keeping your ass in check. He assaulted officers and resisted arrest after clearly being ASKED to leave. When he was not compliant, police began to use necessary force to escort him out. When he still persisted, they used tactics to stop the further escalation. Like I said, these people have to justify their actions to their department, why would they do something "illegal" in a public venue? And no one has answered why this guy ran back toward Kerry instead of out the exit. No one has acknowledged that this man struck out at the police officers. This, not Mr Rogers, is the reason we have such a fucking entitled attitude about everything.
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The kid never shoved them. He resisted yes, but he never assaulted anyone. I just watched the video and I only see him pulling away and leaning against them as they pushed to make it more difficult. There was no assault.
Yes he was resisting arrest, but he wasn't doing so violently so, at least not anymore violently than the police were being (which I admit is minimal amount of force in the beginning). I think he ran back towards Kerry because he was just trying to break away, not really looking where he was going. But maybe he was running back because he felt he was robbed his right.
Ristaron hit the nail on the head I think. The police should have just had the respect to tell the man why he was being arrested, even if the answer was "you're not, you're being escorted out." We do have a right to know why we are being manhandled and/or arrested by police. It has to be justified.
That right there could have potentially cleared up a lot of this firestorm and potentially misplaced anger on all sides of the argument.
UPDATE: Video below shows the young man taking his turn at the mic!
Watch it.